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Deep Madder Masculinity

“There’s lots of advice for women about how to get over shyness, but shyness can be much harder for men to deal with because it’s seen as a feminine trait. [. . .] The problem is that, according to all social rules, men are supposed to approach women, so love-shy heterosexual men fare badly.”
-Gillian Butler, from this article.*
I think this is why Deep Madderian writing often seems like (putatively) masculine articulations of (putatively) feminine sentiments: Deep Madder could almost be summarised as, "Two men struggling with feelings and inhabiting roles that are more common for women."
*Shown to me by P Clark

"Always regard mainstream society with utter contempt and show no respect for the average person."

-Rule 2 of this list of how to fail as an "activist organisation."
Ha, this sounds like rule #1 for how to succeed as a Deep Madder editor.

New "Header"

Our web site continues to evolve. The thing at the top, which we have deemed a "header," is now rendered in a typeface called Monarchia, which was crafted by the people who call themselves "Gemfonts." You can download this font right here.

New Site


Attention: A new site dedicated to Deep Madderian pursuits is now in its nascent stage, though developing rapidly like a lion cub. We are thus quickly approaching a time when, to stay abreast of Deep Madder happenings, one may simply visit deepmadder.com.

The Purpose of Deep Madderian creations

"I feel like one of the hugest things that music ever did for me was make me feel that there’s someone else who is feeling the way I am feeling — disconnected to humans as a whole."
-Adrian Orange, from an interview

This reflects the way I appreciate my own favourite songs, this paradoxical feeling of "there's someone else in the world who feels there's no one else in the world," or "I'm not alone in feeling alone." It is also conveyed in a Thanksgiving song:

I hope only that my lonely song
Will echo somehow everyone's
-Thanksgiving, from "Thanksgiving," from the album Thanksgiving

Forgotten Definition from Issue No. 12

Government as Selfish Individual Fallacy

Common amongst proponents of neo-conservatism and generally ignorant, reactionary individuals with a libertarian streak, this remarkably ubiquitous fallacy involves a strange, anthropomorphic conception of (democratic) governments as self-serving, avaricious monarchs who want to "take" the hard-earned money of the poor "taxpayer" for themselves. It is a consequence of Western individualism and American conceptions of "freedom" run amok that people conceive of themselves as so independent, self-sufficient, and frankly bratty that they cannot fathom why society ought to involve any sort of sharing or consideration of how others are affected by one's supposed, selfish "freedoms" (like the "right" to bear arms or indulge in environmentally-ruinous practices).

Obama Inauguration Depression

Am I completely alone in this, as usual? Does no one else have a problem with Beyonce's (not to mention other detestable pop stars) performing at the Obama inauguration thing? Everyone I've suggested displeasure about this with has seemed utterly clueless as to why anyone would have a distaste for Beyonce and her inclusion in said "historic" event. I suppose the fact that she's black makes the sight of Barack and Michelle dancing to Beyonce's singing such a touching spectacle (in that it is meant to symbolise the end of racism or some shit), and this has blinded people to the fact that she's more than just a symbol of racial harmony.


When I first saw that it made my stomach hurt. I, too, had succumbed to the ubiquitous glorification of Obama and the miraculous nature of his presidency. I was unable to resist the belief that now everything's different with him - according to the stereotypes, a city-loving, urbane, sophisticated person - in power. But yeah, seeing that threw my delusions out the window.

What if Britney Spears or Gwen Stefani or Christina Aguilera had been the ones taking centre stage at that shit? If that would make you uncomfortable, then is being black Beyonce's redeeming quality?

I don't know what I would've preferred to Beyonce, but not a fucking super pop star aimed at teenagers that shakes her booty on every screen and advertisement in the world. Couldn't they have found a more mature, dignified singer for such a symbolically epic dance? I don't know, their dancing to Beyonce just seems to make this vibe like "this is the best this country has to offer: pop music for stupid kids as seen on television." It's like more of the same target-everything-to-youth-because-then-it-will-seem-hip-and-everyone-will-like-it bullshit. It's like they went to the nearest MTV outlet or something to look for musical talent for this show. Ugh. I guess I expected too much.

Everyone loves self-deprecating guys, apparently.


"Greengross studied the role of humor in sexual selection for 2 years and was 'surprised' how often self-deprecating humor was used. Surprised? Really? Do men actually think that women wants [sic] a cocky guy who brags about himself all the time?"

This comment, in response to said article, is funny:

"Sorry, but there are plenty of douchebag alpha males getting laid
aplenty without one ounce of modesty or self-deprecation."

-Macloserboy

[courtesy of one P. D. Clark]

The Perceived Elitism of Eschewing Things (e.g. Pop Culture)

"I like that he watches television and admits it; I like that a lot."

-Unknown female speaker on CBC Radio 1, speaking of Carl Wilson of Zoilus, in conversation with other speakers about Wilson's book Let's Talk About Love

Why is it that people seem to derive so much pleasure from others' indulgences? It seems that, because it reassures them about their own questionable interests or actions or increases their relative sense of self-worth, people usually prefer others who are ethically negligent and whose interests are as average as possible. Why is ethical humility and having prosaic interests more attractive than a sincere dedication towards being a better person and liking extraordinary things? Why is it that people such as Zicheng Xu (or at least the classic, unprecedentedly progressive Zicheng), who try their best to be as considerate as possible, will have no girlfriend while oblivious, mediocre monsters will have millions?

Furthermore, what kind of bizarre interest is that (guys who watch television and admit it)? Maybe I'm crazy, but I could've sworn that EVERYONE in our society watches and loves and talks about television and stupid shows every day of their lives; it's not an even remotely niche or unique quality. I mean, it's like saying, "I have a weakness for people who eat meat" or "...drive cars." I attribute it to the endlessly committed Universalised Alternative Fallacy.*

Is it really that terrible to not like or do stupid shit? That is, presuming you deem television a lower form of entertainment, as partially implied in said radio programme, is there not something admirable about people who seek ostensibly higher forms of entertainment? In my experience, those who have such non-pop culture interests are punished and restrained by this sense of the (putative) humility inherent in participating in popular culture. Why can't anyone admit that popular culture is extremely inane and not worth our attention without feeling guilty about it, as though saying so is a declaration of one's elitism?

Furthermore, the term pop culture seems misleading; it makes it sound like a grassroots, people-powered phenomenon, while in truth it is not created by/for people at all, for the most part, but by corporations and for money. The term, then, itself is part of the reason that pop culture is perceived as a variety of entertainment, and set of interests, of greater humility and tolerability.

The degree of popularity of one's interests is not a matter of humility or arrogance. Although it is generally perceived as such, eschewing pop culture and, in doing so, implying that it is beneath one, is not synonymous with believing one to be superior to others who embrace pop culture. It is possible, in fact, to genuinely completely prefer alternative culture, and to believe that pop culture is beneath everyone, not just oneself. Moreover, having esoteric interests is largely indicative of being sufficiently passionate about the arts that one has assiduously sought out the musicians, painters, poets, writers, and so forth, that one enjoys or admires most, rather than settling with those whose popularity and conspicuousness has necessitated one to notice. Esoteric, discriminating interests are not, in fact, usually mere products of arrogance or attempts at higher stature any more than popular interests are. Anyway, if one is using musical interests as social capital, it seems much more likely and useful that one would profess a fancy for a band that many people like rather than one that nobody has ever heard of or that people hate.

I do not watch television, though I did consistently throughout my childhood (and, thus, my life until recently). I am fortunate enough to not own a television, though I would be sufficiently tempted to watch it if I did. However, I actively avoid it, like drugs, because I do not want to succumb to its temptations; I think it's intellectually harmful and paralysing. Thus, to say that I deem television a nearly worthless medium of entertainment that one should avoid is not to say that I am superior to those who watch television; it is to say that I merely believe I oughtn't to watch it. Though I can, of course, derive much pleasure from watching television, and would watch it if I had sufficient access to one, I object to its effects and wish it didn't exist (and this is not a contradiction). It is, contrary to popular belief (and notions of hypocrisy), possible to condemn something that one can (or does) enjoy (and I would know because I do it daily).

*Universalised Alternative Fallacy: the assumption that the atypical views and ways of life that one is accustomed to are equally familiar to and practiced by most people, ostensibly caused by the abundance of other, similarly alternatively minded people in one's social circle obfuscating one's ideas of the majority.

I am going to have pasta with tomato sauce for dinner. I called Christopher but he wasn't home. I have installed my little aloe plant in an equally little pot on my window sill and it looks fetching if I do say so myself. I have to read a tonne of stuff to be ready for my examinations on Wednesday and Thursday and it will be very difficult. I wait for posts and comments on these two blogs when I'm lonely. I want to make songs about fundamental human feelings lately. Like, wanting to be loved and being selfish and insecure; (attempts to be) honest accounts of facets of my/our personality. and songs that are simple mere quotidian communication between two people like this weird relatively recent one by adrian orange. i've been writing about the self, about one's conception of the separation of themselves and others, and how you need others and how you need people's love and attention and that's why you do a lot of things that you do, etc.

"Come on and sit by me ...
and I won't criticise you, no I won't, ... no, I sympathise
and i won't conflict with you, ... no, I will be true
And I hope you like me but I know you will
Because we've shared a lot and we share it still.
...
I love you like you love me
I love and trust you like you trust me"

Thoughts on contemporary art

I feel that contemporary art is far more concerned with being ostentatiously "clever" and innovative than pleasantly affecting the senses and making an immediate profound effect of some kind, which is what I think ought to be the primary objective of visual art, just as it is for music, poetry, etc.. It seems that contemporary art has lost touch with the senses and emotions, dismissing them as kitsch, and appeals now solely to the intellect and exists almost exclusively in a highly academic context. Visual art ought to be enjoyed immediately when viewed, like a piece of music is when listened to, not only upon extensive further analysis and retrospection. Like my high school art teacher once said, such conceptual art reaches a point when one wonders why the "artist" didn't just write an essay instead of make the "artwork".

(i posted this on a blog yesterday)

I learned a new word to describe myself

I think I am homosocial because of my socially burdensome proclivity to romancify & objectify the opposite sex. With men I am able to enjoy a "pure" friendship, unhindered by the romantic insecurities, anxiety, and considerations that inexorably arise in me with the opposite sex, despite (though the degree of which is contingent on) the attractiveness or romantic potential of the given person. Whilst solely amongst (heterosexual) men I feel like there is a greater equality in the group and less of a competitive climate; that is, we enjoy a sense of camaraderie & supportive rapport perhaps akin to that amongst members of the same sports team or cultural group. For these reasons I feel the pubescent advent of sexuality and romantic attraction presents many problems for us, contrary to the glorified status sexuality holds (at least in pop/youth/alternative culture in our society).

(I realise that this sort of thinking and said proclivities are problematic but they are merely how I feel, not how think I ought to feel [which are two very different things]. Plus, I of course do love having female friends, but this is just an idea about the difference.)

[Note: none of this applies whilst with a partner]

Here's the thing: the point of making the zine a mere one page was so that we'll always get it done. thus, we have no excuse. so at the end of the month we always need to finish one, no matter how shitty it is. what do you think? this is what i think.

On handwritten vs typed text

I was thinking about perfect-looking text, like the stuff you're reading now that's been typed by a computer instead of written by my hand:

'Back in the day', before we could just reproduce letters and write shit out so that it looks perfect and all the letters were identical, this sort of effect had to be attempted by hand. when achieved, it exuded an aesthetic of extreme labour and care; it proved that TONNES of work went into rendering each letter, and thus there was a sort of air of dignity and a special beauty to it.
now, however, such fancy perfect-looking lettering is EVERYWHERE, since it's easier than life to reproduce letters. therefore, it's lost this air of specialness and dignity, and it's become way more common in our visual landscape than hand-written text.
thus, it feels, at least to me, as if now hand-written text, despite how sloppy or quick it looks, is the sort of text that gives an air of effort and care, not to mention intimacy, and computerised text is the lazy choice. so yeah, i was just thinking about this weird shift.

poetry vs. songs

Idea: cryptically deep puzzling lyrics, meant to be studied and dived into and shit, are more appropriate for poems than songs. with poetry, you CAN study the words because you can SEE them, but with a song it should be more direct so that they can be appreciated whilst hearing them.
Plus, the more complicated and cryptic the lyric is, the more simple the song should be, so that it functions more like a poem and less as music. i.e. it should be sung in really simple repetitive melodies (like Thanskgiving). and the more musically-complicated and thus lyrically-hard-to- follow, the more easy the lyric should be to understand.

Gratefulness When Everyone Owes Everyone Anyway

I was thinking about how I value living one's life in a way that exudes a sense of general gratitude and indebtedness to all fellow humans, but this seems to conflict with my other belief that we all owe each other everything anyway.
Like the shirt that Mount Eerie references in No Flashlight that says "I like thanksgiving because everything is my mother."
But if we all deserve all the help that anyone can give us and it is all of our responsibility to help each other out, then being so grateful all the time doesn't really make sense. or does it?
post comments please.